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MHR Mille pistons

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:20 pm
by Kickaha
Due to a dropped valve I will be after some pistons, a search on the net doesn't find to many available options

1) Are the 88mm kits for the 900cc engines the same?

2) Are the 88mm Pistons in the rubber band 750cc bikes the same?

I'm picking it wont be quite that easy, different deck heights etc

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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:09 am
by mizike77
That photo makes me cringe.....

Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:53 pm
by Kickaha
mizike77 wrote:That photo makes me cringe.....
It doesn't do much for me either
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Do you think I can fix it with a TIG :lol:

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:07 pm
by rwhc80
Kickaha,

If Steve doesn't have them, try this



http://www.roadandrace.com.au/pistons.htm


Cheers

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:49 pm
by Kickaha
rwhc80 wrote:Kickaha,

If Steve doesn't have them, try this



http://www.roadandrace.com.au/pistons.htm


Cheers
ta I had looked their site but I must have missed that page

Had an interesting suggestion from two engineers who looked at the piston,they said "It's forged, weld it up and remachine it" think that might be a last resort :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:25 am
by Kickaha
Turns out they seem to be in pretty short supply around the world (at least where I'm looking anyway) but road and race are just having a batch made by JE so I put my name down for a set, should be ready in 3-4 weeks

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:54 pm
by rwhc80
Good news Kick,

Not keen on the idea of using a welded piston, so glad you opted for the new ones. "Not suggesting it wouldn't work" but for me, just doesn't sound the better of the 2 options.

Keep us informed on your progress ?????

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:11 pm
by Kickaha
These arrived today courtesy of Phil from Road and Race

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Camera 002 by Kickaha13, on Flickr

I really want to just leave them on the table to stare at for a day or two :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:15 pm
by rwhc80
Kick,

I know exactly how you feel, I got a set of 92mm JE's from Phil for my track bike about a year ago. Engine not yet competed, but I just pull them out every now and then to drool.

Almost seems a shame to hide them inside the engine !!!

Cheers
Rick

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:48 pm
by Kickaha
The engineer who is repairing the head rang today as he is final getting around to repairing it

It was actually the nut that holds the top bevel gears together that had come loose which lets the gears move and altered the valve timing which allowed piston to valve contact and the resulting damage

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:11 am
by Kickaha
pretty slow progress due to a lack of funding but the head should be done in the next week or so

When my engine dropped a valve it damaged one cylinder slightly

The engineer doing some of the work has suggested fitting cast liners rather then replating as for less than the cost of replating one cylinder I can fit new liners to both of them

Anyone else have any thoughts on that one?

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:09 pm
by wdietz186
They used cast sleeves up until the Mille with no problem. The only problem I can think of might be the OD of the sleeve might be too much for the cyl. barrel for a good fit and may interfere with the studs. I'd think at least 2mm min. thick for the spigot into the cases would be needed but it probably could be done.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:18 pm
by rwhc80
Hey Kick,

You may get a shock when you price a set of liners ! they are not cheap !!!

Explore the replate as an option !

Cheers
Rick

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:51 am
by Kickaha
rwhc80 wrote:Hey Kick,

You may get a shock when you price a set of liners ! they are not cheap !!!

Explore the replate as an option !

Cheers
Rick
I have an Ducati friendly engineer who can make the liners, the material isn't every expensive as we can buy "blanks" and machine to size

$562 to replate per barrel, I can get both liners done for the price of one barrel replate and still have change

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:35 am
by radecal
Might find another problem going back to cast iron liners.
The Nickasil cylinders on the Mille required cast iron rings so you will have to source different rings to go with the cast iron liners.
I have only had to replace rings on my Mille as they wear and not the bore. You will have liners as well as rings wearing by going down the cast iron liner road. Cast iron rings for the Milles are available as the rings for the newer belt engines with the 88mm bore do the job (Mille part number superseded by belt number).