I have always used Metzelers on my Darmah and found them excellent.
However I need to replace both tyres at once now and am thinking about changing to Avons - no particular reason except that the Avon site lists tyres for the bike, Mick Walker says in his book that Metzelers aren't recommended on this bike and I'd just like to try something different.
Anyone got any thoughts on suitable tyres? Not necessarily Avons but any recommendations or warnings would be appreciated.
Cheers
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Gentlemen,
How come and none of you mentioned Michelin Macadam 50 tyres? I have them not only on my bevels, among them a Darmah SS, but also on my 1982 BMW R100RS, which was transformed to a stable bike, when I changed from Metzelers to Michelins. Also the tail happy Moto Guzzi 850 LeMans I used to have, had been tamed considerably with the help of these tyres.
Greece is an extremely slippery place to ride (ask any German rider who has visited our country), so Michelins have proved themselves great to this respect, much more than any other tyres I have tried. They exist in all the dimensions we are interested in.
Having said that, I have to add that rear shocks recommended are Koni dial-a-ride which are 33 cm long (eye center to eye center) and are now manufactured by Ikon. Probably most of you use them already.
Happy riding
Nico
How come and none of you mentioned Michelin Macadam 50 tyres? I have them not only on my bevels, among them a Darmah SS, but also on my 1982 BMW R100RS, which was transformed to a stable bike, when I changed from Metzelers to Michelins. Also the tail happy Moto Guzzi 850 LeMans I used to have, had been tamed considerably with the help of these tyres.
Greece is an extremely slippery place to ride (ask any German rider who has visited our country), so Michelins have proved themselves great to this respect, much more than any other tyres I have tried. They exist in all the dimensions we are interested in.
Having said that, I have to add that rear shocks recommended are Koni dial-a-ride which are 33 cm long (eye center to eye center) and are now manufactured by Ikon. Probably most of you use them already.
Happy riding
Nico
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Hello Peter,
First of all I did not condemn any of the earlier tyre brands mentioned, some of which I have tried and some of which not. I just wondered how come and nobody mentioned Michelin, for good or for bad.
Second, it is totally unfair to condemn one of the most avant garde tyre companies around the globe only because 20 years ago, one of its tyres didn't seem to fit your bike, or most probably as you also admit the Mille's frame didn't fit not only Michelin, but any tyre. What was the tyre? Michelin A48 or some other type? Anyway it doesn't matter now.
However I wouldn't go into the trouble to continue this correspondence if it wasn't for the severe way you judge Michelin.
Michelin is winning GPs for ages now, in F1, WSB, moto-GP and in any form of racing you can imagine. They have an R&D dept in their Spanish factory which a few other tyre companies have.
Finally I can assure you that I use Michelin radials on my 916 as well and I'm satisfied (factory equipped Pirellis were also very good), even my American car came factory equipped with Michelin Pilot tyres for which I also have no complaint.
I wasnt' satisfied with factory equipped Metzelers on my BMW R100RS back in 1982, but it would be ridiculous to support that I will NEVER use Metzelers any other time for the rest of my life. These generalisations and fanatism for or against a particular product don't lead anywhere and usually betray low understanding of the matter.
Best regards
Nico
First of all I did not condemn any of the earlier tyre brands mentioned, some of which I have tried and some of which not. I just wondered how come and nobody mentioned Michelin, for good or for bad.
Second, it is totally unfair to condemn one of the most avant garde tyre companies around the globe only because 20 years ago, one of its tyres didn't seem to fit your bike, or most probably as you also admit the Mille's frame didn't fit not only Michelin, but any tyre. What was the tyre? Michelin A48 or some other type? Anyway it doesn't matter now.
However I wouldn't go into the trouble to continue this correspondence if it wasn't for the severe way you judge Michelin.
Michelin is winning GPs for ages now, in F1, WSB, moto-GP and in any form of racing you can imagine. They have an R&D dept in their Spanish factory which a few other tyre companies have.
Finally I can assure you that I use Michelin radials on my 916 as well and I'm satisfied (factory equipped Pirellis were also very good), even my American car came factory equipped with Michelin Pilot tyres for which I also have no complaint.
I wasnt' satisfied with factory equipped Metzelers on my BMW R100RS back in 1982, but it would be ridiculous to support that I will NEVER use Metzelers any other time for the rest of my life. These generalisations and fanatism for or against a particular product don't lead anywhere and usually betray low understanding of the matter.
Best regards
Nico
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> 1st place: Bridgestone Battlax BT 45 F+ R, 3.25H19 front, 4.00H18 rear, made in Japan,
Even better: They are also available in 120/90 and 100/90. After using Pirelli's and Metzeler's (ME33, ME11) on my 860GTS for decades I am using them now and they seem to be FAR better than all those "old" technology tyres.
(I can't really judge it now because after years with my Duc only standing in the Garage first I have to learn driving again but I was told the same -- that these "modern tech. tyres" are simple superior compared to all those old tyres -- from a guy with 5 bevel Duc's he's riding in Winter&Sommer, at Day&Night - in short: by a fanatic :-)
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> 1st place: Bridgestone Battlax BT 45 F+ R, 3.25H19 front, 4.00H18 rear, made in Japan,
Even better: They are also available in 120/90 and 100/90. After using Pirelli's and Metzeler's (ME33, ME11) on my 860GTS for decades I am using them now and they seem to be FAR better than all those "old" technology tyres.
(I can't really judge it now because after years with my Duc only standing in the Garage first I have to learn driving again but I was told the same -- that these "modern tech. tyres" are simple superior compared to all those old tyres -- from a guy with 5 bevel Duc's he's riding in Winter&Sommer, at Day&Night - in short: by a fanatic :-)
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