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Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:17 am
by Chasbmw
I have a 750 GT with a new 200w three wire alternator (2x yellow, 1x red). I want to use a Trispark MOSFET regulator, Trispark say that I should ignore the red wire from the alternator and just connect the 2 yellow wires to the regulator.
What is the purpose of the red wire? I see it being connected to the + lead at the battery, before the ignition switch?
Any views from people who know more about the magic of Ducati electrics
Charles
Re: Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:18 am
by Craig in France
Hmmm.
As I understand it, because the AC power outputs of the
original two and three wire alternators are
not the same, they require different regulator-rectifiers.
Or, to be strictly accurate, it's actually the other way round: the early reg-recs do the rectification in a different way to the later ones - half wave vs. full wave. This means the outputs and the wiring of the two alternators are correspondingly different.
Or at least they used to. But I can't say whether this still holds true for modern replacement items such as yours. However, here's a wiring diagram that you might like to show Trispark. It comes from the 860 workshop manual and illustrates the differences in the reg/rec associated with the change over from the three wire alternator to the two wire alternator.
HTH
Craig
Re: Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:01 am
by Chasbmw
Thanks for reply Craig……..
Looking at the diagrams it seems as if on the original regulator, the connector to the red wire is simply a pass through to the + terminal of the battery and doesn’t actually do anything within the regulator itself. As you say, worth a conversation with TRi Spark
Re: Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:52 am
by Craig in France
Chasbmw wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:01 am
<sniP> Looking at the diagrams it seems as if on the original regulator, the connector to the red wire is simply a pass through to the + terminal of the battery and doesn’t actually do anything within the regulator itself.
Correct.
When using a modern reg/rec, you
may have to isolate this cable. But best not to take my advice, but refer to the manufacturer instead ...
Re: Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:32 am
by Chasbmw
I’ve sent an email to Tri Spark with your copy of the wiring diagrams, so interested to see what response I get
Cheers Charles
Re: Wiring Trispark regulator on 750 GT
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:00 am
by Chasbmw
Not much help from Trispark, this was their response, at least I now know that the alternator is called a split phase winding with a centre tap!
The charge control light is not an issue for me as it will be handled by a Monsoon charge indicator LED.
Hello Charles,
Thanks for your email. Your bike has a 3 wire alternator but as you said it is not 3 phase. I believe it's called a split phase winding and has a centre tap.
I think you should consult with an electrician with some experience installing the type of alternator with a conventional regulator like ours.
The other thing to consider is the warning Light control in the original regulator is not catered for in ours.
hope that helps,