Bevel Drive Full Flow Oil Filter

[AndyBig]

Hi I've been looking for this post in the forum and can't find it, a friend pass it on to me because I've been thinking of doing the same thing.
Has anyone done this or know if it is a good mod?
Cheers Andy


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Bevel drive full flow oil filter
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:31:13 +1030
>
>
> hello 'heads
> I have made a full flow system on both my square case motors, & at least 10
> others, that is invisible outside. If I knew how to use a digital camera I
> would show how easy it is, but I'll try to describe it anyway.
> Remove the oil pump, block off the output hole, drill & tap pump body.
> Remove oilfilter mounting post & (have someone) machine a copy with a long
> tail that extends down the drain hole. Tap a thread into the bottom end of
> the tail. Fit the post & pump, & make to fit a piece of 8mm tube between the
> two, using your favourite fittings.
> Drill out oil gallery hole in filter chamber that feeds into main lines.
> Note that some models have a pressed in reducing plug there, just pull it
> out.
> You will need a better seal than std. around the filter cap. I always use
> one of VeeTwo's alloy ones as they have an O ring.
> I have done many miles with this setup & no problems.
> Oh, and then you can run whatever your favourite oil is & not feel bad.
> That's my 2 cents worth
> Peter

[BevHevSteve]

you won't find that in this forum as it was orignally a post in The Bevelheads email list on micapeak.com not here.

[rwhc80]

G,day Andy,

I have not seen that posting before as I don't subscibe to the bevelheads list. (too many emails) but unless I am mistaken, I think the author is Peter Cross, who is a well respected, knowledgeable Ducati mechanic that has a workshop next to Winton raceway in Victoria, if so it should be good info as Peter knows what he's talking about with bevels.

Frankly, I can't see how it could do any harm, as the current bypass filter is almost completely usless, so it sounds logical to me >

Having said that, hopefully someone will respond that has actually done the conversion and can give us a confirmation ?

Cheers
Rick

[AndyBig]

Thanks guys
I will check out bevelheads before I go ahead, I must say though it does sound like a good mod.
Cheers Big Andy

[AndyBig]

Hi Guys
Just to keep you posted Heres my reply on the full flow oil filter post.
And here's a picture of the up graded pump housing.
http://www.bevelrubber.com.au/full-flow-pump.JPG
Hope you find it Interesting
Cheers Big Andy.

> Hi Big Andy, Peter Cross at Trackside engineering was developing it
> awhile back with much success, it has been done before too though. The

> mod is to run an oil line up through the centre of the oil filter from

> the oil pump, I will post a pic later when I can find it. The oil then

> runs through the gallery that goes to the cylinders and then around
> and to the crank. I made up some special oil pump housings to make it
> all a bit neater. You are definitely on the right track though Andy,
> would be a big improvement. No external line is needed, although the
> little hole in the oil filter area in the crank cases needs to be
> drilled out, which would mean a total engine pull down, although you
> can run some low pressure compressed ail up the oil line whilst
> drilling it, thus preventing any drilling swarf from entering the
> gallery. Peter also restricts the oil going to the heads a little bit.

> I'll try and find a picture. Cheers Damien
>
> Damien Birch

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[rwhc80]

Big Andy,

Thanks for the update, an interesting subject you've raised.

After your last posting I put a call in to Damien Birch at Bevel Rubber to find out how much of the conversion he would undertake. It appears Vee Two no longer manufacture any bevel-drive stuff, and I wondered about locating the items like the replacement oil filter cover ect.
He advised, he can do as much or as little as required. He will make the oil filter cover if needed, or just the new oil pump body.( either for the conversion, or just a standard relacement ) Not cheap, but I guess 1 off manufactured items never are.
It's not a small conversion if your engine is complete and in the bike, but luckily I am just in the process of starting to build, so it sounds
like an interesting prospect to me. I will investigate further.
Cheers Rick

[Per Garbos]

It sounds interesting with a full flow filter, but how about the extended time before the oil reach the big end.
I am thinking about when starting up the engine after a while. As i understand the flowdirection, the filterhouse need to be completly filled up with oil before it goes to the cylinderheads and the big end.

Any long term experience with this fullfilter modification?

But I really like the internal modification, instead of the outside tube running from the filterhouse to the engine case.

BR Per Garbos