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jfligg
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Hello
My name is Jeff, and I am from ON Canada. I got my first Ducati in the Spring. I tHink it is a 1960 Americana 200cc. I was told it runs, It is missing the drive chain. I will try to attach a pic. I was wondering if anyone knows where a parts book and shop manual are availible. Is this a rare bike. I have been looking all over and cannot find any pictures on line and very little other info. I would appreciate any info you guys might have. Thanks Jeff

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Craig in France
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Hi Jeff,

There's a little bit on the Americano in Ian Falloon's "Standard Catalogue", pages 32-33 (I shouldn't re-produce it here for copyright reasons). There's also a photo of one, complete with high bars, on page 45 of "Motociclismo racconta la storia della Ducati" ...

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The styling of yours is a little curious. With the valanced front mudguard, you could be right about it being an Americano. However, the seat pan with the raised bit at the back is 1961 Monza. (The small, 'Bronco', tank was fitted on both models). So I wonder if your bike could be something called a 200TS (TS = "Turismo Sport" or "Speciale" according to Ian). This, according to Mick Walker, was offered in 1960 as an intermediary model between the Americano and the Monza, but used the tank and seat of the latter.

But whatever ... Definitely not something you're likely to see every day :)

Parts book: I have seen a parts book for the 1960 175 and 200 range. And Motomanuali have it listed, http://www.motomanuali.com/MANUALI&CATA ... ducati.htm

There was also an owner's handbook- well, at least for the 200TS model.

Workshop manual: the factory produced a generic manual for the OHC singles* which was largely re-published by Floyd Clymer. Both turn up reasonably frequently, e.g eBay 120460941418 & 360177686026.

(* I think there was also an earlier version pre-dating the introduction of the 250s).

HTH

Craig
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Hi Craig
Thanks for the reply! I thought that the TS and the Americano were the same. Thanks for straightening that out. Do you know an online source that lists the VIN numbers for various models? Do your literature say what size of rear chain this bike uses? Thanks Again Jeff
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428 chain available here
http://shop.bevelheaven.com/detail.aspx?ID=573

Workshop manual available here
http://shop.bevelheaven.com/detail.aspx?ID=1149

brochures available to look at here in our main site
http://www.bevelheaven.com/brochure-index.htm

You really should pickup a copy of this book
http://shop.bevelheaven.com/detail.aspx?ID=258

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Post by Craig in France »

jfligg wrote:Hi Craig
Thanks for the reply! I thought that the TS and the Americano were the same. Thanks for straightening that out.
Nah, I think you're most likely right. I think confusion arises 'cos the same bikes were often marketed with different names in different markets. So, for example, I see that Steve's brochure http://www.bevelheaven.com/Brochure-BS- ... O-1of2.htm does, indeed, label the Americano as a TS ... even if, according to other sources, it might not have been marketed with both names in other markets.

And then again, there were also other bikes labeled "TS" ... but not "Americano" - a 125 and 175. There's a brochure for a 125 TS higher up the page of Steve's brochures, for example.

"Confused? You will be ..."
jfligg wrote: Do you know an online source that lists the VIN numbers for various models?
"VIN" number? What's a VIN number?" Nah, just joshin' with ya, Jeff, 'cos VIN numbers didn't exist in 1960, of course ...

Best on-line source I know for frame and engine numbers is Rob Miller's list, visible - once again - on Steve's site (http://www.bevelheaven.com/, look under 'Data Index'). Now according to Ian Falloon, the 200 Americano shared frame and engine numbers wuith the 175 Sport and 200 Elite ...

Guess it's time to dig deep and buy the books and a chain from Steve! :-D

Ciao

Craig
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BevHevSteve wrote: <snip>

Workshop manual available here
http://shop.bevelheaven.com/detail.aspx?ID=1149
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Spot on, Steve - thanks.

(That's the other workshop manual I thought I remembered ... :-D ).

Ciao

Craig
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