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860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:23 am
by swooshdave
From what I understand there is currently only one replacement electronic ignition option for the 860GT (kickstart) Ducati Elettronica ignition and that's the Elektronik-Sachse.

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http://www.elektronik-sachse.de/ZDG3/DU ... ele_en.htm

At around US$500 it's not exactly cheap but only in comparison to the huge number of point replacement models out there. And it comes with 9 maps, is there a consensus as to which map to use?

Of course the RITA is no longer made. And sticking something with the Lucas name on it to make it better... is just wrong. :mrgreen:

Are there any others?

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:43 pm
by wdietz186
Using the Sachse system will also benifit your crankshaft because of the real advance curve instead of a 20deg. jump all at once around 1200rpm.
While pretty reliable the Rita system is nowhere near as advanced as the Sachse arrangement and it would require you cut or remove the right side panel to install.

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:12 pm
by swooshdave
I found one other option but I don't know how readily available it is. Apparently uses Monster parts.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/14-vintage/ ... ost1240575

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Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 2:37 am
by blabber
The Sachse unit for a kick start model requires the removal of the flywheel,this affects the ability to idle at low revs.

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:34 pm
by abmartin
Mdina Italia offers this product:

http://www.mdinaitalia.co.uk/cgi-bin/co ... IGSYS_RDKS

Bruce

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:44 pm
by swooshdave
abmartin wrote:Mdina Italia offers this product:

http://www.mdinaitalia.co.uk/cgi-bin/co ... IGSYS_RDKS

Bruce
Good find there!

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Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:14 am
by swooshdave
abmartin wrote:Mdina Italia offers this product:

http://www.mdinaitalia.co.uk/cgi-bin/co ... IGSYS_RDKS

Bruce
I wrote to them, it's just the Sache ignition.

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:10 am
by jumpjg
blabber wrote:The Sachse unit for a kick start model requires the removal of the flywheel,this affects the ability to idle at low revs.
Ran my 750 bevel for years without a flywheel with no idle problems. There seems to be plenty of mass in the crankshaft without it.

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:34 pm
by swooshdave
I think I found another one.

http://www.silent-hektik.com/Duc_750GT.htm

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Euros 397 (includes 19% VAT)

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:11 am
by zemole
hello ,
sorry I don't come too often ;

It's the option I took fir my 860 GT;my bike has started about two or three kicks..here is some pictures of the setting (you have remove the pinion-flywheel over the old ignition generator )

my bike isn't finished...

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spaghetti' s for testing !!!

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see you !!

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:08 pm
by toomuch
Very nice ! Thanks for the post bud .

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:58 am
by Mayor08
Hi Zemole,

How has the new ignition been working for you? Any issues while trouble shooting?

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:06 am
by Mayor08
SwooshDave:

Have you purchased one of the options in this thread?

Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:37 pm
by swooshdave
Yes, we went with the Sachse.

Clutch and flywheel off. Not sure what to do next.The wire gland that came with the kit is the wrong size. Do you just cut the old ignition wires? I don't see any other way to get them out.

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Re: 860GT (kickstart) Electronic Ignition Options

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:27 pm
by BevHevSteve
Dave, pull each individual wire out of the molex connector after marking which goes where. Then pull wires out of gland assembly.