Coverting the parrallel twin to take a Honda oil filter

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Coverting the parrallel twin to take a Honda oil filter

Post by Chris Bushell » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:24 am

I seem to remember some time last year that someone posted the idea of inserting a plate above a honda oil filter in ones of these bikes, as the Ducati filters are difficult to get.

It involved some form of plate that needs to be machined up.

However I cant find the post!

Can anyone help?

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Post by nottonight68 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:21 am

i think it might have been lazzeri

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Re: Coverting the parrallel twin to take a Honda oil filter

Post by LAZZERI » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:39 am

Chris Bushell wrote:I seem to remember some time last year that someone posted the idea of inserting a plate above a honda oil filter in ones of these bikes, as the Ducati filters are difficult to get.

It involved some form of plate that needs to be machined up.

However I cant find the post!

Can anyone help?

Chris
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Hi,
You can buy these filters (the genuine ones) at this adress in Holland
http://www.imteq.com/giovanni/E_frame.h ... _home.html

If any problem search for "Classic Italian Bikes" on google.
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Post by Chris Bushell » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:51 am

Yes I know that Giovanni has the genuine filters, but his are old stock and two out of the three that I bought had rust on the metal parts, not what you want to put into a freshly re-built engine.

In part my reason for going over to the Honda filter, is that it is widely available and a lot cheaper than the Ducati one.

I have a spare engine in pieces, so it looks like I will have to reverse engineer the adaptor plate then.

Chris

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Post by LAZZERI » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:15 am

Chris Bushell wrote:Yes I know that Giovanni has the genuine filters, but his are old stock and two out of the three that I bought had rust on the metal parts, not what you want to put into a freshly re-built engine.

In part my reason for going over to the Honda filter, is that it is widely available and a lot cheaper than the Ducati one.

I have a spare engine in pieces, so it looks like I will have to reverse engineer the adaptor plate then.

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Hello Chris.

I understand you don't like these rusty filters even if i think it's more a psycologic than a technical problem.
I bought condensers from Giovanni, they were the same...
I am tot shure there is room enough in the filter housing to fit an intermediate plate for the Honda filter and which one nor the exact design of it.
I remember some one talked about the idea but nothing more.
If you are lucky enough to find the drawing of course I would be interested.
Anyway I have an other and cheaper adress: Accro Moto

http://www.accro-moto.com/page_filtration.htm

You can try by E-mail

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Post by esa » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:46 am

Hi, that idea of using plate was mine, but Gowanloch uses much more simple idea, just a piece of aluminium tube. You can ask them:
http://www.ducati-gowanloch.com/

I can measure that tube if you like to machine it yourself.

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Post by Chris Bushell » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:34 am

Esa

If you can give me the dimensions, I can machine it up no problem.

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Post by esa » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:53 am

OD 30.0 mm, ID 20.5 mm, lenght 8.0 mm.
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Post by LAZZERI » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:53 pm

Hi,
Thanks a lot.
Could you please precise which is the exact Honda filter that fits:
Model, years, part number...
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Post by esa » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:41 am

Vesrah: SF-1001
MCLEOD NO: FV0101
15412-300-325
15410-422-004
15410-426-010
GL1200/A/I/L 84-87
GL1200SE-I 86
GL1100/A/I 80-83
CB1100F 83
CBX/CB 1000C 79-83
CB900C/F 80-83
(042912 04/11/05)


That´s the text on label. 70´s CB 750 filter should fit also.
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Post by LAZZERI » Sun May 03, 2009 1:56 am

I have heard that the Kawasaki Ex 250 cartridge fits directly.
This bike is the 250 twin called 250 Ninja in some countries, the sports 250.
I wiil buy one soon to make sure.
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Post by Chris Bushell » Fri May 08, 2009 12:13 am

Guys

Thanks for the information, I will attend to this when I get back from the Moto Giro d'Italia in 10 days time.

I am looking to make the modification as the Honda filters will be available in the UK easily and the sealing rubbers on the NOS filters ae quite hard and might not seal properly.

We have had the bike running "badly" and had to park it until I get back from Italy. Turns out the timing marks for the ignition are a bit retarded, so we have had to degree wheel everything. Additionally even though we have ultrasonically cleaned the carbs, the choke jets keep blocking with muck making starting very difficult.

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Post by LAZZERI » Wed May 27, 2009 8:36 am

Hi Guys !

In fact the Kawasaki and Honda filters are the same, they need an intermédiate washer to fit. (30x20.5x8)
You can also choose Yamaha FZ 750 filters.
ref: 36Y-13444-00 for Yamaha
ref: 16099-003 for Kawasaki

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Post by LAZZERI » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:02 am

Hello Guys.

You can buy the UFI filters at this adress:

http://www.desmo-ducati.de/shop/

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Post by Chris Bushell » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:23 pm

Well mine is up and running, though on a std oil filter at the moment and will be dancing round Cadwell park Monday and Tuesday next week all being well at the Clubs annual trackday.

I have picked up a couple of Honda filters and plan on making them fit shortly.

More news anon.

Chris

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