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Osred · Post by **Osred** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:04 am

At some point, I too would like to have a pair of the five-spoke, four-bolt Campagnolos replicated in forged aluminum. I have been told that Marchesini may do so upon special request for a premium cost, and plan to contact them within the next month to inquire. Another prospective manufacturer for the task is EPM, but I have been told they believe there isn't enough worldwide demand for such a product. At present, they only produce replicas for vintage MV Agusta and Moto Guzzi machines. Perhaps a group of us can get a decent order together for EPM to confirm there is a demand.

http://www.magni.it/epm_6_razze.htm
http://www.marchesiniwheels.com/ENG

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:31 pm

Osred wrote:At some point, I too would like to have a pair of the five-spoke, four-bolt Campagnolos replicated in forged aluminum. I have been told that Marchesini may do so upon special request for a premium cost, and plan to contact them within the next month to inquire. Another prospective manufacturer for the task is EPM, but I have been told they believe there isn't enough worldwide demand for such a product. At present, they only produce replicas for vintage MV Agusta and Moto Guzzi machines. Perhaps a group of us can get a decent order together for EPM to confirm there is a demand.

http://www.magni.it/epm_6_razze.htm
http://www.marchesiniwheels.com/ENG

Ok, let me know how many people they would need to order (in order to make the wheel part (F/R)). I noticed some more corrosion on mine today.

Dana

angel3000 dot dana at gmail dot com

Peter Mille · Post by **Peter Mille** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:28 am

I would like a set Campagnolo replica's from Marchesini, but they are way to expensive...!!
I met them on the Ducati World Weekend 2000 in Italy, they exposed an exact replica of the gold, 5 spoke Campagnolo, but made from cast aluminum.
They told me they bought the rights from Campagnolo to produce this wheel.
There was demand from (rich!!) collectors/ museums, and some classic racers, so production was low and the price high, if I remember correct, about $1000 per wheel (!!)
Btw, Campagnolo Italy still exists, they make parts for bicycles, I contact them about the oxidation problems of their cast magnesium wheels, but they told me, it was another era, and they know nothing about it....!!

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:34 am

Peter Mille wrote:I would like a set Campagnolo replica's from Marchesini, but they are way to expensive...!!
I met them on the Ducati World Weekend 2000 in Italy, they exposed an exact replica of the gold, 5 spoke Campagnolo, but made from cast aluminum.
They told me they bought the rights from Campagnolo to produce this wheel.
There was demand from (rich!!) collectors/ museums, and some classic racers, so production was low and the price high, if I remember correct, about $1000 per wheel (!!)
Btw, Campagnolo Italy still exists, they make parts for bicycles, I contact them about the oxidation problems of their cast magnesium wheels, but they told me, it was another era, and they know nothing about it....!!

I just emailed Marchesini. I let you know what they say, if anything. I looka t it this way. I got the bike for free. Putting a few thousand dollars into it isn't a problem.

Osred · Post by **Osred** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:08 am

Dana,

I like how you think...hmmmm...free bike...killer upgrades.
Word is the man to contact at Marchesini is named Maximiliano a/k/a Max, but I don't recall his last name.
Peter Mille indicated they make cast aluminum replicas, but I wonder what a pair of forged aluminum would cost. I would be interested in knowing what you find out from Marchesini.

Chris

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:07 pm

Starting with removing the rear caliper, then instrument removal, rear cylinder breather can, and then ending with taking the battery out.

http://darmahproject.blogspot.com/

Osred · Post by **Osred** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:48 am

I noticed on your blog that the exhaust nuts were loose upon removal. If the nuts haven't been drilled for safety wire, with a corresponding anchor point on one of the cylinder head fins for each nut, they will continue to become loose due to vibration regardless of the amount of torque applied when tightening the nuts.

In addition to the exhaust nuts, I have safety-wired all hardware for the rotor carriers, rear sprocket, brake calipers, oil filter, and rear suspension. Better safe than sorry.

Den · Post by **Den** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:31 pm

......Resist the temptation to bead blast the disk surfaces.

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_wa ... disk.shtml

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Osred · Post by **Osred** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:03 pm

The gist...

The obvious question now is "is there a 'cure' for discs with uneven friction material deposits?" The answer is a conditional yes. If the vibration has just started, the chances are that the temperature has never reached the point where cementite begins to form. In this case, simply fitting a set of good "semi-metallic" pads and using them hard (after bedding) may well remove the deposits and restore the system to normal operation but with upgraded pads. If only a small amount of material has been transferred i.e. if the vibration is just starting, vigorous scrubbing with garnet paper may remove the deposit. As many deposits are not visible, scrub the entire friction surfaces thoroughly. Do not use regular sand paper or emery cloth as the aluminum oxide abrasive material will permeate the cast iron surface and make the condition worse. Do not bead blast or sand blast the discs for the same reason.

Carroll Smith, "The 'Warped' Brake Disc and Other Myths of the Braking System", www.stoptech.com, Stoptech, LLC, 2004.

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:22 am

Osred wrote:I noticed on your blog that the exhaust nuts were loose upon removal. If the nuts haven't been drilled for safety wire, with a corresponding anchor point on one of the cylinder head fins for each nut, they will continue to become loose due to vibration regardless of the amount of torque applied when tightening the nuts.

In addition to the exhaust nuts, I have safety-wired all hardware for the rotor carriers, rear sprocket, brake calipers, oil filter, and rear suspension. Better safe than sorry.

One of the exhaust nuts had been drilled (the one that was loose) but the safety wire was broken. I've got an exhaust nut tool coming in the mail, hopefully it'll be here in a week or so.

Good point on safety wiring this stuff.

Felt stupid all day Saturday, had added some oil to the Miata engine and then forgot to put the cap back in, oil all over. Grrrr. Took me hours to clean it all up, and of course there are bits the oil will never really come out of.

74-750SS · Post by **74-750SS** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:47 pm

Someone was looking for tha campagnolos I believe. There are a pair currently on the german ebay site.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Campagnolo-v-Ducati- ... dZViewItem
Or
www.ebay.de
and type
Ducati campagnolo

the v in the description means Vorne - front
the h in the descritpion means hinten - rear

MartinMille BANNED · Post by **MartinMille BANNED** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:48 am

Wow what a sore! must be nice to know you have a 100% original bike in every way, it may take you a while but the end result will be worth the wait

Martin

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:22 pm

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/155 ... 6021_b.jpg

FastFashn · Post by **FastFashn** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:40 am

Took the upper triple clamp off the Darmah today and was left with the threaded steerer tube and this wee beastie of a nut.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/212 ... 69f2_b.jpg

I've seen these on bicycles before, and had a tool for my first Klein Quantum Pro that was similar to what is needed here. Unfortunately I did not have a tool this size right now. So, I went over to the local motorcycle store to get one. http://www.flatoutmotorcycles.com/ They used to sell Ducatis so they must know where I can get a tool, right? They acted like they had never seen a threaded steerer tube. Talked about how forks are held on with nuts and clamps and things now. Ok...

So, I called the local Ducati dealer. http://www.indyducati.com/ They must know where I can get a tool, right? They suggested I use a chisel. They said, "We use a chisel." Remind me to shop there... Aargh!

After that... I had a pizza with my friend Jim who had come over to help me take the fork off, and then I went home and called Bevelheaven. http://www.bevelheaven.com/

Steve suggested I call a bike shop (which is what I should have done the moment I saw the setup). There is a neat little shop close by my house called ICS. I stopped in, and five minutes later had a Park Tools HWC-5. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/212 ... ee49_b.jpg Once I got back to the Darmah it tool me less than a minute to get the nut off, and the fork dropped straight out.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/212 ... 4bdf_b.jpg

Thanks Steve!

Peter Mille · Post by **Peter Mille** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:47 am

OK, but did you ever got an answer from Marchessini??

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