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Grounding Engine

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:59 pm
by Spub
I recently had trouble with my kick start Norton not starting up, and I eventually traced the problem to the connections in the ignition wiring. Once cleaned up the bike ran fine, but since it was just wired in August when it was restored, I figured the ground may be a bit marginal. I therefore ran a ground wire directly from the negative terminal to a bolt on the rear of the block, and bike continues to start right up. I then figured, why not do the same on the 900. Even though the bike has been starting fine, I figured why not....so I ran an ground wire from the negative terminal to the clutch adjustement bolt, as insurnace. I figure with a kickstarter, weak spark is something that must be guarded against at all costs....

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:40 pm
by Den
I hope you mean the clutch *cable* adjustment bolt.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:26 pm
by BevHevSteve
yeah that is what he meant, that is what I told him to do and recommend to everyone........ Just run a good wire from the neg terminal to the clutch adjustment nut where it seats against the engine block. Do this ALONG WITH the normal negative terminal ground strap or wire....

Re: Grounding Engine

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:39 pm
by Paul Croft
Hi Steve, could that account for having a weak spark on the rear cylinder. (rear cylinder cooler) I have checked the resistances all through, including coils, pick ups, resistors, all reading fine. The bike is intermittently popping and banging, makes no difference with the lights on, but hates full throttle. I will put a healthy earth lead on tomorrow, and see how it goes. Sorry, I'm just thinking out loud. If it works I will let you know!

Re: Grounding Engine

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:09 am
by wdietz186
Paul, when checking the pickup resistances you also need to check to see if either of the wires on each pickup are shorting to ground. In addition, you need to check if the wires on one pickup are shorting to the other pickup wire[s]. Check one wire from one pickup to one wire of the other pickup,do it for all four wires. You should have infinite resistance [no contact] between them. What happens is the insulation breaks down on the pickup wires and they will short together or short to ground or all of the above. You will get weak spark, no spark, or the spark at the wrong time depending on the level of the vibes moving things around. Many times the contact is occurring inside the gland nut where the leads come through the primary cover. Steve stocks the wire and stuff to replace the leads, it's not rocket science but it can be a bit of a pain to do. You do need to be mindful of the polarity of the pickup wires or your timing will be awonky when you go to run it.

Re: Grounding Engine

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:32 pm
by Paul Croft
Ok thanks for that wdietz, I will try that later as earthing the engine made no difference. The spark on the rear cylinder does appear to be weaker.

Re: Grounding Engine

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:36 am
by Paul Croft
Wdietz, It worked, the insulation going into the engine case was cracked, under the external insulation!
It's a year since the passing of my brother, (who's Darmah I have just restored) and at the weekend we got together where we used to camp, family and old friends for a 'Dave Fest'. I'm sure you will understand how much it meant to turn up on his old bike, to stand it along side the others, and enjoy a beer or three?, whilst remembering old times. Thank you. Paul.

Re: Grounding Engine

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:55 am
by wdietz186
Glad it worked out for you Paul. Remember, most carb issues are electrical and vice versa.